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Anyone Do Business W/ These Ppl? seems pretty shady IMO

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Posted 08 March 2008 - 09:30 AM

http://audiozone4u.com/sample_cds.htm
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Posted 08 March 2008 - 09:47 AM

Looks like a site selling warezed stuff, especially because they have all those CDs from different companies and the page looks like shit.

Don't buy warez, if you really have to steal then steal on your own, but don't pay some f****head who did nothing else than downloading some torrents.
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Posted 08 March 2008 - 08:49 PM

If you read the frontpage, they state they sell the software as a personal backup copy and you are required to have the original software yourself.
They only offer backup services and that is what you pay for.

So you probably get a harddrive full of stuff what you can't use because you don't have the serials (because they are not allowed to give you those).
That is actually a worse deal than the warez sites that sell OEM software editions or whatsoever.
Well you got a 150 quid harddrive 500GB, but it would make that a very expensive external harddrive :P
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Posted 09 March 2008 - 03:52 AM

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Looks like a site selling warezed stuff, especially because they have all those CDs from different companies and the page looks like shit.

Don't buy warez, if you really have to steal then steal on your own, but don't pay some f****head who did nothing else than downloading some torrents.


lol. i recently ordered the zero-g dance pack vol. 1 for $152.00 b/c it includes jungle warfare vol. 1-3, but they never filled the order and it's not on my credit card history. then i saw this, and it supposedly includes at least two of them plus a lot more. if i knew somewhere to get the jungle warfare samples, i'd be all over it. i don't think i'll order this hard drive, though. ;)


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If you read the frontpage, they state they sell the software as a personal backup copy and you are required to have the original software yourself.
They only offer backup services and that is what you pay for.

So you probably get a harddrive full of stuff what you can't use because you don't have the serials (because they are not allowed to give you those).
That is actually a worse deal than the warez sites that sell OEM software editions or whatsoever.
Well you got a 150 quid harddrive 500GB, but it would make that a very expensive external harddrive :P


you know...i've never once needed a serial number for a sample pack. maybe your experiences are different?

my reaction to it was that i figured they were just saying they're backup copies in order to get themselves out of potential legal issues. basically by saying not to buy them unless you have the originals, but knowing good and well that no one buying them actually has the originals.
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Posted 09 March 2008 - 11:09 AM

Still it is a risk to take where they won't add any tools and serials to the archive that would allow you install and run this software without actually owning it.
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Posted 09 March 2008 - 11:23 AM

A quick whois on their domainname told me, not to trust them even more.
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Posted 09 March 2008 - 11:56 AM

bcoz?
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Posted 09 March 2008 - 01:02 PM

View Postlooza, on Mar 9 2008, 12:56 PM, said:

bcoz?


Registration Service Provided By: [url="http://samspade.org/whois?query=RESELL.BIZ;server=auto"]RESELL.BIZ[/url] 
 Contact: 1.7734105155 
 Website: [url="http://resell.biz/"]http://Resell.biz[/url] 
 Domain Name: [url="http://samspade.org/whois?query=AUDIOZONE4U.COM;server=auto"]AUDIOZONE4U.COM[/url] 
 Registrant: 
	 [url="http://samspade.org/whois?query=PrivacyProtect.org;server=auto"]PrivacyProtect.org[/url] 
	 Domain Admin		[email="contact@privacyprotect.org"]contact@privacyprotect.org[/email]
 
	 P.O. Box 97 
	 All Postal Mails Rejected  visit [url="http://samspade.org/whois?query=Privacyprotect.org;server=auto"]Privacyprotect.org[/url] 
	 Moergestel 
	 null 5066 ZH 
	 NL 
	 Tel. 45.36946676 
 Creation Date: 05-Jun-2007 
 Expiration Date: 05-Jun-2008 
 Domain servers in listed order: 
	 [url="http://samspade.org/whois?query=dns6.stargateinc.net;server=auto"]dns6.stargateinc.net[/url] 
	 [url="http://samspade.org/whois?query=dns5.stargateinc.net;server=auto"]dns5.stargateinc.net[/url] 
 Administrative Contact: 
	 [url="http://samspade.org/whois?query=PrivacyProtect.org;server=auto"]PrivacyProtect.org[/url] 
	 Domain Admin		[email="contact@privacyprotect.org"]contact@privacyprotect.org[/email]
 
	 P.O. Box 97 
	 All Postal Mails Rejected  visit [url="http://samspade.org/whois?query=Privacyprotect.org;server=auto"]Privacyprotect.org[/url] 
	 Moergestel 
	 null 5066 ZH 
	 NL 
	 Tel. 45.36946676 
 Technical Contact: 
	 [url="http://samspade.org/whois?query=PrivacyProtect.org;server=auto"]PrivacyProtect.org[/url] 
	 Domain Admin		[email="contact@privacyprotect.org"]contact@privacyprotect.org[/email]
 
	 P.O. Box 97 
	 All Postal Mails Rejected  visit [url="http://samspade.org/whois?query=Privacyprotect.org;server=auto"]Privacyprotect.org[/url] 
	 Moergestel 
	 null 5066 ZH 
	 NL 
	 Tel. 45.36946676 
 Billing Contact: 
	 [url="http://samspade.org/whois?query=PrivacyProtect.org;server=auto"]PrivacyProtect.org[/url] 
	 Domain Admin		[email="contact@privacyprotect.org"]contact@privacyprotect.org[/email]
 
	 P.O. Box 97 
	 All Postal Mails Rejected  visit [url="http://samspade.org/whois?query=Privacyprotect.org;server=auto"]Privacyprotect.org[/url] 
	 Moergestel 
	 null 5066 ZH 
	 NL 
	 Tel. 45.36946676 
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Posted 10 March 2008 - 08:01 AM

Sorry, would have been better if I got a bit more into details.
However, the most fishy thing for me is actually, the fact that there is only a postbox available for any information exchange. And there we have the fact, that every postal letter will be rejected.
However, I'm not really into those NL adresses but I suspect with ->

Moergestel 
null 5066 ZH 


only the city is mentioned (correct me, if I'm wrong).

Also, some info still seems to be missing in Vv Quote. Found out via who.is, that their serverprovider and fileservers (?) are based in US. I'm used to think, that companies go a more economic way, to distribute their goods. (providers in their area and I also suspect, they're much cheaper there) So, using a server in the US looks even a bit more curious.

Concerning their website in general: Imprint? ect? Any other relationship except this IMHO weird disclaimer and legal statement on the frontpage to a valid lawsuit? :)
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Posted 10 March 2008 - 09:19 AM

I have not seen such whois info for a registrar before... Analysing the data almost everything is bogus information, so whoever submitted this data to the Name Information Service provider did a lousy job on checking or got paid well enough to do so.
But i doubt it is allowed to submit bogus data.
The zipcode and city at least belong to eachother.
I wonder why a UK company residents in the Netherlands.
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Posted 10 March 2008 - 11:00 AM

There are lots of things going on in that neighbourhood:

D-Clean BV
5066 ZH, Moergestel
Netherlands

But also:

Blue Monkey Architects B.V.
Pieter van Gisbergen arch. BNA
Postbus 74
5066 ZH, Moergestel
T 013 7113066

And also:

Postadres:
Postbus 73
5066 ZH Moergestel
info@audacia.nl

However, the phonenumber (Tel. 45.36946676) is fake.
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Posted 10 March 2008 - 03:04 PM

View PostBotB, on Mar 10 2008, 12:00 PM, said:

However, the phonenumber (Tel. 45.36946676) is fake.

i find area code 013 pretty strange for Moergestel, the last number may require a +31 if you don't live in the Netherlands.
Moergestel lies in the southern area of NL (Limburg/Eindhoven) which have area codes starting with 04x.
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Posted 10 March 2008 - 03:32 PM

to sum it up: dont order there. :D
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Posted 10 March 2008 - 03:46 PM

View PostvV, on Mar 10 2008, 04:04 PM, said:

i find area code 013 pretty strange for Moergestel, the last number may require a +31 if you don't live in the Netherlands.
Moergestel lies in the southern area of NL (Limburg/Eindhoven) which have area codes starting with 04x.


Actually, Moergestel DOES have 013 as an area code..
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Posted 10 March 2008 - 08:05 PM

View Postlooza, on Mar 8 2008, 09:47 AM, said:

the page looks like shit.


some one should sell them a cd with some html tutorials on....
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Post icon  Posted 10 March 2008 - 08:51 PM

wel at least there not trying to flog copys of renoise.....
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