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Frequency spectrum vertical side ruler display

Renoise Forum - January 13, 2020 - 11:51

@4tey wrote:

If I play a pure 100Hz sine wave (full peak to peak +1 -1), 0db track headroom and display this in the frequency spectrum, I get:

I’m no expert in this (I could’ve missed something obvious), but should that drawn peak be a bit more closer to 0db? Rather than graphically displaying about -15.75db according to that ruler(?) I can understand +0.3db or -0.5db off when run through the algorithm and drawn, but -15.75db? Sure it is probably just a graphical thing (no detriment to the sound), I still kinda get the feeling that that is…

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H_kt [Melodic / Glitch]

Renoise Forum - January 13, 2020 - 03:27

@Redman wrote:

Bit of a work in progress, randomly put this together before bed in about 3-4 hours. Needs more variation rhythmically, melodically, and tonally, and a possible B-section with altered fx processing.

Been out of the music production world for a couple months but got back in it the last month or so, and I’ve been really trying to focus on my mixing over the past two weeks to get good clean mixes down, while also trying to practice composing melodies cause I’m brutal at actually making and mixing together melodic content. This track was intended to be something like a Mr. Bill type track with loads of cut up drums and dubstepy type glitch stuff going on, and just loads of aesthetic variation (I just for the life of me cannot seem to produce content like that) but in the end it couldn’t have ended up further from it.

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Lists of VSTi with "Velocity Sensitivity" and "Program Compatibility"

Renoise Forum - January 12, 2020 - 22:43

@Raul wrote:

In this thread I intend to create 2 lists of VST plugins of instruments that meet these premises:

  • They must be VST2 (for the moment) of 64bit, specifically with .dll extension for Windows 10 (there will usually be a version for others OS).
  • The first list should be plugins compatible with velocity sensitivity. The plugin must have a wheel or something similar to be able to increase or decrease the sensitivity to the pulsation velocity, or at least set to accept the maximum velocity range (0 to 127).
  • The second list must be compatible with the programs that Renoise can display on the Plugins tab (drop-down list on the left called “Program”).

Generally, the best plugins for Renoise are the 64bit plugins that are in the 2 lists.

If anyone knows any VSTi that meets both properties, name it in the thread and I will add it to the 2 lists below. These listings can help you find better the complements for instruments that best fit Renoise.

I will also add the 32-bit ones that are still interesting to me (with the hope that Renoise will work well again with the 32bit plugins). There are still many very interesting 32bit VSTi plugins, but I will not add them to the lists.

Those that are not marked are 64bit. It doesn’t matter if they are paid or free, but they must have a minimum quality.

1. List of VSTi with “Velocity Sensitivity”
  • Pigments [Arturia]
  • Massive X [Native Instruments]
  • Spire [Reveal Sounds]
  • Predator / Predator 2 [Rob Papen]
  • Punch / Punch Multi [Rob Papen]
  • Gladiator [Tone2]
  • Thorn [Dmitry Sches]
  • Diva [u-he]
  • Hive 1 [u-he]
  • Diversion [Dmitry Sches]
  • Sawer [Image-Line]
  • Xpand!2 [Air Music Technology]
  • Philharmonik 2 [IK Multimedia]
  • OrchestralCompanion Strings/Brass/Woodwinds (and others) [SONiVOX]
  • BassLine-101 [TAL]
  • NoiseMaker [TAL]
  • Olga [schwa] (32bit)
2. List of VSTi with “Program Compatibility”
  • Abakos [HERCs Music Systems] (32bit)
  • Sylenth1 [LennarDigital] (32bit)
  • TranceDrive (32bit)
  • ANA2 [Sonic Academy]
  • Carbon Electra [Plugin Boutique]
  • Dexed [Digital Suburban]
  • Predator [Rob Papen]
  • Punch / Punch Multi [Rob Papen]
  • BIGROOMKIXSYNTH [Alan Hinton] (32bit)
  • AvatarST [HGFortunex2] (32bit)
  • Ragnarok [Hans Peter Willems + Bjoern Arlt]
  • OrchestralCompanion Strings/Brass/Woodwinds (and others) [SONiVOX]
  • Elek7ro-II [TAL]
  • NoiseMaker [TAL]
  • Olga [schwa] (32bit)
List of VSTi of doubts with Velocity Sensitivity
  • Dune 3 [Synapse Audio]
  • Serum [Xfer Records]
  • Kontakt Player [Native Instruments]
List of VSTi not recommended (various problems with Renoise 3.2.0/3.2.1)
  • Helm [Matt Tylet] (GUI problem)

Do you know any plugin that is not in the lists, to add it?

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Drinky Drums - work in progress

Renoise Forum - January 12, 2020 - 20:54

@AmburgerElper wrote:

Any feedback is much appreciated - still have lots to learn

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Vertical vs Horizontal

Renoise Forum - January 12, 2020 - 18:09

@Redman wrote:

For the past year (maybe even two) I’ve been thinking about switching over to Ableton live for the arrangement part of creating my tracks, while retaining Renoise for sequencing and rendering drum patterns, for two main reason:
[1] I’m beginning to think that vertical visualization of midi sequencing and waveform displays in a top to bottom fashion is superior when dealing with really really dense multi-layered production.
[2] I suck at creating melodic content and the top to bottom approach combined with a piano roll (wah wah he said piano roll, I know I know) looks a lot easier for me to comprehend.

Pretty much all the music I’ve made in Renoise in the past two years hasn’t really exceeded about 6-8 tracks, and a few send tracks, maybe 2-4. Mostly I’ve been working with maybe commands, phrase randomisation, and random lfo’s that turn off and on specific effects and devices to create evolving sounds and progressions which is fine, I can make some really crazy shit that way particularly percussive stuff, but there have been times where I’ve actually attempted to sit and write a track note by note with little to no randomisation and found that I usually end up getting lost in all the tracks. Scrolling left to right through 20-30 or more tracks on a 15" laptop screen full of midi notes can get pretty intense. I’ve actually got an old spare computer monitor that I’m hooking up to my laptop with a HDMI cable to give me an extra 15 inches of screen space so I’ll have loads of room soon enough but I’m still curious about using a vertical DAW like Ableton and if it really is better for arrangement or not?

I know ultimately that one approach isn’t necessarily “better” than another and that really it’s gonna come down to personal preference at the end of the day, but I’d be interested to hear some other peoples thoughts on this topic.

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Support for chord memorization VSTs (i.e. Cthulhu, Scaler, MidiChords etc.)

Renoise Forum - January 12, 2020 - 17:52

@darnellisatwork wrote:

Currently,

If I want to experiment with chord progressions using Cthulhu, I have to use a conventional DAW (Ableton, Logic, blah blah).

In these DAWs I can route the MIDI Output of Cthulhu to another track. It would be awesome to have that functionality in Renoise.

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Detune Note slightly?

Renoise Forum - January 12, 2020 - 16:26

@helltrack wrote:

Is there a way to fine-tune a note? I know you can slide them with U and D, but wondering if it’s possible somehow to play in-between notes

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Vdrum (roland td50k) with renoise making a kit

Renoise Forum - January 12, 2020 - 00:35

@Elrinth wrote:

Is there some go to guide. or maybe a xrnx already setup for this kit?

I’m trying to do it right now and it’s super tedious and it also sounds pretty poorly. Well the kick and snare now sounds great for me, but the hihat is very very hard to get right in renoise.

When playing the hihats on my roland kit there are like a billion notes and commands for each hit in renoise.

Anyway to fix this so there is only ONE actual hit into renoise instead of like 9 per hit?

If I use vsti drumkit superior 3 which one of the guys working there gave me, there are only one audible hit.
But if I simply listen to midi on a sample there is a billion hits.

Here is what recording a simple drum beat looks like in renoise

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Renoise 202x VST3 support

Renoise Forum - January 11, 2020 - 04:57

@jirobata wrote:

Hi Everyone.

Thank you, Renoise team for all your work. Renoise is the best music tool in the world.

I know this subject has been brought up before and you are working hard on it. Still, a lot of responses have been that there are not so many VST3’s and VSTs done using VST2 still work just fine. However, now that Steinberg has completely killed and buried the VST2 framework, it is very difficult for people who want to develop new plugins to do VST2. I just wanted to highlight this perspective. For what it’s worth (exactly 1 avid Renoise user’s opinion…) VST3 support is the number one feature request for me : )

Keep up the great work!
Cheers to all

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Replayer bug? Fadeout + Cxx

Renoise Forum - January 10, 2020 - 21:10

@joule wrote:

  1. A weird tick (?) seems to slip thru when using the Cxx effect after a fade-out.

  2. Also note how the second note ramps very smoothly compared to the first note. (trying with DirectSound atm though).

I wanted to make my chiparps (phrases) a bit more dynamic via the main pattern editor, but it turns out a bit too glitchy this way.

Cxx-tickweird.xrns (5.0 KB)

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REVERB-O-MAT //Doofer

Renoise Forum - January 10, 2020 - 20:50

@LofiMat wrote:

Happi new Yearzz Homiezz!!!

I made a smal new Doofer which isnt that stupit at All!!

REVERB-O-MAT (LoFi-Reverb-with-Maggi!) Maggi iss german Magic you can putt inyur Soupzz:grin:

  • DRiVE is the overall DRIVE of the FX
  • NOiZE is a added LoFi Noize to Reverb
  • SiZEE is the overall Size of Reverb
  • WiDTH is the Stereo Witdh of Reverb
  • WETT Reverb Wet Signal only
  • DrYY Reverb Dry Signal only
  • MAGGi This is a Secret & ADDSS SOME MAGIC to the Sauce!!

Hope You people like it - Letzz me know.

Sorry, new users can not upload attachments.

LINK https://www.mediafire.com/file/on3vce9a5t8amfk/REVERB-O-MAT.xrdp/file

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Midi VST to increase note length

Renoise Forum - January 10, 2020 - 02:08

@ffx wrote:

Hi,

I am looking for a midi VST that can make a note longer than it was played, so capturing note-offs and place it later. I need that to make a midi arp playing overlapped notes, to properly not retrigger a mon portamento sound of a vsti. Oh, for macos

Any idea?

EDIT: Found a solution in Bitwig: Midi ARP + Midi Note Length

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Yek Donya Bedehkar Be Nasle Baad

Renoise Forum - January 9, 2020 - 23:31

@AliGhamar wrote:

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Windows: Keyscape doesn't show up in renoise 3.2.1

Renoise Forum - January 9, 2020 - 20:49

@tw1psy wrote:

Spectrasonics Keyscape won’t show up in the plug in list of renoise 3.2.1.
I tested it with renoise 3.1.1 and it will show up there.

Win X64

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Melodic sound sources

Renoise Forum - January 9, 2020 - 12:59

@Redman wrote:

I was wondering what the best option would be for sourcing good orchestral instruments like the ones used in this track. I don’t really use many real world instruments in my music but wanted to start and I’ve never been quite sure where was the best place to get them. I tried sampling but I could never re-work the samples with enough freedom to make them sound the way I wanted so I’m thinking VST’s would be a better option?

I know you can get Kontakt and get specific libraries for specific instruments but would something like Omnisphere be a better choice for an all round library of sounds covering a multitude of instruments? Or what would you guys suggest?

Cheers in advance

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More Useful Presets, Easier to Find

Renoise Forum - January 9, 2020 - 02:20

@trueschool wrote:

I won’t mention how many years I was a Renoise user before I discovered these INCREDIBLY USEFUL presets for Phrases, Keyzones, Waveforms, Modulation, and Effects just hiding quietly in this tiny little menu where I’d never think to look for them.

These seem to be the key to being able to quickly dial up professional-sounding, useful sounds without a lot of manual tinkering. It’d be a good move to make this a lot more discoverable so newbies can get in and have a gentle learning curve while seeing firsthand the powerful sound shaping that can be done.

In the manual and in the forums, everyone seems to act like I should be building all my sounds from scratch, and so consequently I’ve spent years learning A LOT about synthesis and Renoise before being able to create nice layered sounds like these.

Imagine if, when you opened up Renoise, you looked around and felt like you’d just opened a fully-stocked studio full of all the gear you’d need to make music. I get this feeling when I open up Logic Pro and see presets and instruments that look and feel like the instruments and sounds I know as a musician and listener.

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Renoise 'quits' (but not crashes) when using Beatskillz RetroKZ64 (VST) in a song

Renoise Forum - January 8, 2020 - 21:48

@LoFiye wrote:

Description:

Renoise ‘crashes’ when loading a song using the RetroKZ64 VST. I can actually load the plugin, select a sound and work with the VST throughout song creation. When i store the song, quit renoise, start renoise, and try to load it back again, the renoise window simply disappears. This happens every time. Though the renoise window is gone, i do actually see renoise running in the background when i check using the task manager. The logs actually don’t mention anything. Renoise loads the song, the plugins and says it happily running (but without a window - there is just… nothing )

Steps to reproduce look like this:

  1. Launch Renoise
  2. Load the RetroKZ64 VST
  3. Select a sound
  4. Add a note or two
  5. Save the song
  6. Quite Renoise
  7. Start Renoise
  8. Try to load back the song again
  9. poof. Renoise window = gone, but it still runs somewhere in the background

Expected results:

Renoise loading the song in the main window.

Actual results:

Renoise loading the song, but after loading it, the renoise window disappears.

Extra:

When i start Renoise clean, and load the plugin. It works (until saving/reloading later). However, when i select a sound, the window changes shortly with a ‘please wait’ screen to load up the actually sample. Maybe this causes strange behaviour within Renoise upon loading the instrument along with the song?

I realize it’s just a simple rompler, and probably not one of the best plugins written. However, it should kind of work correctly i think!

Thanks!

Dennis

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Progressive trance track made with Renoise

Renoise Forum - January 8, 2020 - 14:30

@bye_bye_socks wrote:

Hey,
Just found this track om my computer. It’s a progressive trance track made inn 2006 with renoise.
Please have a listen!

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About latency device settings

Renoise Forum - January 8, 2020 - 03:27

@Keisuke wrote:

What is the normal value of Renoise Latency?
I’m confused i don’t know it.
And, is the Sample rate 4800 correct?
Please help me!

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Can I hear entered notes when the song is playing?

Renoise Forum - January 8, 2020 - 01:06

@andrew wrote:

When I’m editing a pattern I can hear the notes as I enter them using the keyboard, but when the song is playing, they don’t play as I enter them.

If I enable follow mode, the notes play as I enter them – but this feels completely out of control. I hit the notes on the wrong rows and have to go back and edit. By that time who knows what I actually meant to enter? Not me.

So, with follow mode off, I’d like to play the song and hear notes as I enter them. I just can’t find a way to do this.

The reason for this is that I don’t want to interrupt the playback, because I want to decide what notes to enter based on what I’m hearing and how the song feels, and I only know that when it’s playing. When it stops I lose the place.

In the old days in Impulse Tracker I used to keep the pattern looping and enter the notes just behind the playback cursor. This helps me see where I am in the pattern and editing becomes something between playing live and composing. It sounds horrible while you’re entering the notes but it’s great when it loops back round and everything resolves perfectly into place. Also you can race the play cursor and write the part in one loop and this feels somehow like winning. Playing live and then editing feels like admin, I have to tell you.

I’ve tried Renoise a few times over the years and it’s great. I put some time into learning its ways and forgetting my 90s habits, but I’ve finally realised that this quirk is what’s stopping me getting further than putting a few ideas down. If I could get this one thing to work it would be huge. Everything would be perfect. I absolutely promise you the album I’d make would be monstrous.

How do I do it!?

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